FORUM PEDAGOGIQUE COACHINGOLF
Vous souhaitez réagir à ce message ? Créez un compte en quelques clics ou connectez-vous pour continuer.
Le Deal du moment :
Pokémon EV06 : où acheter le Bundle Lot ...
Voir le deal

Tour Championship à East Lake

4 participants

Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par M.A. Fan Mer 1 Nov 2006 - 23:56

Les 30 meilleurs joueurs sur le parcours de Bobby Jones.

On ne parle pas de ....

y m'énervent boxing joie

Mais il n'y a donc que Coachingolf qui connaisse ça ?
M.A. Fan
M.A. Fan

Nombre de messages : 2298
Age : 56
Ville : Paris
Index : 6 à 15
Date d'inscription : 19/11/2005

http://www.golfrevelation.com

Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Re: Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par Invité Jeu 2 Nov 2006 - 12:30

Tiger Woods est absent semble t-il pour participer à un tournoi en Chine la semaine prochaine.
Ce n'est pas bien mais c'est significatif comme quoi le golf se passera de plus en plus en Chine. Un marché de combien de golfeurs?

rea

Invité
Invité


Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Re: Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par Tommy Jeu 2 Nov 2006 - 13:11

un tour championship sans tiger et mickelson...
Tommy
Tommy

Masculin
Nombre de messages : 391
Age : 53
Ville : Augusta, G or G
Index : 56
Citation favorite : J'invite tous les poulets libres à passer de l'autre côté de la route
Date d'inscription : 04/06/2006

Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Re: Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par M.A. Fan Jeu 2 Nov 2006 - 13:19

M.A. Fan
M.A. Fan

Nombre de messages : 2298
Age : 56
Ville : Paris
Index : 6 à 15
Date d'inscription : 19/11/2005

http://www.golfrevelation.com

Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Re: Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par M.A. Fan Jeu 2 Nov 2006 - 13:23

Vous êtes sur le sujet East Lake...

Pour ceux qui ne veulent pas donner leurs coordonnées, comme moi... voici l'article...

Massive drives nothing new for Austin
At age 64, former Atlantan bashed one 515 yards

By MICHELLE HISKEY
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published the 1rst of Novembrer, 2006

When most of the world's best pro golfers compete this week at East Lake Golf Club, they'll bomb their drives on the same fairways as legendary Bobby Jones.

But in the same era as Jones, East Lake also helped raise another young man who became golf's cross between Paul Bunyan and the Soup Nazi.

Burly, surly Mike Austin occupies a mere footnote in golf history. At age 64, he hit the longest drive in a pro tournament, 515 yards, according to the Guinness Book of World Records.

As well known as Jones was for manners and finesse, Austin was for profanity and cantankerousness, especially to those who sought from him the secret to hitting the long ball.

"What he did [the record long drive] at age 64 with low-tech equipment, without the advantages of physical conditioning that players have today, there were no tricks to it," said Phil Reed, author of an Austin biography, "In Search of the Greatest Golf Swing."

"If he had had a different personality, he would have been a household name."

While modern equipment made Jones' graceful swing obsolete, Austin's methods live on today in the swings of some of the longest hitters in golf, who compete not on the PGA Tour but in contests solely for distance driving.

Devotees claim that any recreational golfer can achieve the holy grail of the game — hitting the long, straight drive — with Austin's methods.

"This seems more natural to me personally," said 5-foot-5, 110-pound Amy Lovelace of McDonough, who hits her drives past 200 yards after taking Austin-based lessons. "I hit it straighter, and fewer things go wrong if I hit it a little weird."

At East Lake, little evidence remains of Austin's brief but critical teenage years there in the '20s and his relationship with Jones, who was 8 years older.

Jones was a gentleman attorney who remained a lifelong amateur while winning the Grand Slam and founding the Masters. Austin was a troublemaking neighborhood kid who idolized Jones and found refuge at his home course.

Austin repeatedly trespassed on East Lake, joining up with members to make bets on how far he could hit the ball, according to community historian Tom Harding.

The club's head professional and Jones' teacher, Stewart Maiden, "allowed Austin to practice on the course if he didn't take the members' money and only came during the weekdays," Harding said. "The entertainment Mike provided only enhanced the members' interest in golf."

Austin, who went on to study at Emory and Georgia Tech, could fly a drive 300 yards in an era when the best pros hit about 250 yards.

"Sonny, how do you do that?" Jones asked him, according to Reed's book.

"Sir, you're taking a lesson from Mr. Maiden. He's a professional," Austin demurred. "I'm just an amateur. You ask him — he'll tell you."

The 6-foot-4, 210-pound Austin hit the ball far by breaking most of the instructors' rules. Footage on various Internet video sites shows how Austin tilted his hips instead of turning them, "threw" the club from the top of the backswing and rotated his hands and wrists opposite to what was usually taught.

He had swung like that partly because at age 6, a golf teacher in his native England told him to bang his club into a bank of mud. Yet he did not appear to overpower the ball, saying that his strength came from "supple quickness."

Jones arranged a round at East Lake with Austin through contacts at Wilshire Country Club near Hollywood. Austin moved to southern California and played PGA Tour and lesser events.

He felt his peers resented him, and the Tour officials gave him bad pairings because he hit it so far. "He also was so adamant about his beliefs in the golf swing that he would give tips to pros, which didn't endear him to them," Reed said.

Austin was 64 when he teed off at the National Seniors Open at Winterwood (now Desert Rose) Golf Course in Las Vegas in 1974.

Using a persimmon driver with a steel shaft — an antique compared to today's clubs — he hit his record drive: 515 yards with a tailwind. The ball landed 65 yards over the par-4 green.

Guinness authors corroborated the feat with his playing partners. In 2004, engineers engaged by Travel and Leisure Golf magazine calculated the weather, temperature and altitude, Austin would have needed to swing 150 mph. Austin had been clocked at 155 mph before, the magazine reported. (Tiger Woods, by comparison, swings at about 125 mph).

"Hell, I felt I was just swinging at cruising speed," he said later. "The ball took off and went up about 20 feet. But [then] it flattened out. I've never seen anything like it. It just held its line, staying up in the air."

"It was like God held the ball in the air," his wife, Tanya, a spectator that day, told Reed.

Scoring, though, often eluded Austin. His best finish on Tour was 37th. After his record drive, he pitched on to the green and three-putted — for a bogey.

"That was a great metaphor for Mike's game, a drive like that and three whacks for a five," said John Marshall of Smyrna, who teaches the Austin methods and competes with 320-yard drives in national senior long driving contests.

"In some respects he was like Ben Hogan, who always thought the flat stick [putter] was overrated and too much emphasis was placed on that."

Austin's students had to endure his constant profanity and harassment, which he continued to dish out from a wheelchair later in life. Critics dismissed him as a flake because of his bizarre teaching methods, such as wearing a black body suit with a skeleton outline to teach how joints should move.

"I heard a lot of people say he was a complete jerk, but creative people a lot of times are like that," Marshall said.

Austin died a year ago at age 95.

Austin's tough upbringing, part of it in Atlanta, made him angry and misunderstood, said Reed, who endured Austin's insults to increase his drives from 220 yards to a personal best 336.

"I had this idea that he was cranky and angry all the time and ready to fight," he said. "Then I went to his funeral, and a number of people stood up and said that on the worst days of the life, Mike Austin told them it can't be that bad, and helped them, and became a lifelong friend. I know he lent money to other golfers on the PGA Tour. ... He revealed to them a loving side, someone who was desperate for love."
M.A. Fan
M.A. Fan

Nombre de messages : 2298
Age : 56
Ville : Paris
Index : 6 à 15
Date d'inscription : 19/11/2005

http://www.golfrevelation.com

Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Re: Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par Invité Jeu 2 Nov 2006 - 14:01

Superbe article, enfin une juste reconnaissance.
Dommage que Bubba ne soit pas là, il aurait essayé de battre le record.
Tiens John Marshall confirme qu'il a travaillé avec Mike Austin, voir son swing dans le post sur le World Match Play 1973.
rea

Invité
Invité


Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Re: Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par M.A. Fan Jeu 2 Nov 2006 - 18:39

John Marshall oui...

Graham Marsh je ne sais pas...

Mais Rea M'A overdrivé de 471 mètres maintenant sur MA...
M.A. Fan
M.A. Fan

Nombre de messages : 2298
Age : 56
Ville : Paris
Index : 6 à 15
Date d'inscription : 19/11/2005

http://www.golfrevelation.com

Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Re: Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par Invité Jeu 2 Nov 2006 - 19:37

M.A. Fan a écrit:John Marshall oui...

Graham Marsh je ne sais pas...

Mais Rea M'A overdrivé de 471 mètres maintenant sur MA...

Excuse moi , j'ai confondu les 2 joueurs. Je ne suis qu'un théoricien du MA swing et toi tu le fais, quelques fois ça part super mais c'est encore trop rare et je ne sais pas ce qui s'est passé
Je suis sur le chemin, à 95 ans peut etre....
En tout cas les adeptes augmentent, on commence à avoir du mal à les comptabiliser.
rea

Invité
Invité


Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Re: Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par Invité Jeu 2 Nov 2006 - 20:59

tu es sur le chemin maitre ,explique a petit scarabé comment faire pour y parvenir dans


ce n'est pas en ce moment que je vais travailler les temperatures sont passees en dessous des 10 degres et je suis frileux


bienheureux les forumistes qui habitent dans le sud.

Invité
Invité


Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Re: Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par Invité Ven 3 Nov 2006 - 18:45

Il me semble que Retief Goosen a changé son swing.
il utilise beaucoup plus ses jambes, il me semble avoir vu un raidissement de la jambe droite au backswing et il décolle bien le pied droit au downswing ce qui ne faisait pas auparavant(ralenti sur le 18 par 3 très difficile, où il a raté son coup d'ailleurs).
Je sais que cela va énerver LJ mais on va suivre l'affaire et les articles qui vont sortir sur Goosen, comme il jouait mal ces derniers temps, il ne serait pas étonnant qu'il opère des changements.

rea

Invité
Invité


Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Re: Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par Minor swing Ven 3 Nov 2006 - 18:51

Retief est un fan du forum Coachingolf mais son français ne lui permet pas de poster.
Minor swing
Minor swing
Modérateur Principal Coachingolf

Masculin
Nombre de messages : 12397
Age : 107
Ville : Plessis-Robinson
Index : En travaux depuis le WHS : Meilleur index obtenu 18.8
Citation favorite : ah ?
Date d'inscription : 19/01/2005

http://http://jungolf.blogspot.com/

Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Re: Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par Invité Ven 3 Nov 2006 - 18:52

Peut etre une erreur de ma part, Goosen faisait avant le fameux Z dessiné par la jambe droite au downswing. Super swing en tout cas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrXIT7m9LGw&mode=related&search=
rea

Invité
Invité


Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Re: Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par M.A. Fan Sam 4 Nov 2006 - 11:46

j'ai observé ça aussi hier soir... j'ai trouvé ça bizarre...

le commentateur a d'ailleurs remarqué qu'il était plus passif d'habitude avec ses jambes. Goosen etait precisemment un anti MA, bien que l'un des plus beaux swings que je connaisse...

Equilibre, puissance etc etc

Rea, ne va pas nous enerver notre LJ national....

Sur la Video, il fait quand même du Goosen, ce qui est très beau... il bouge peu son genou gauche et il monte vertical... de même il ne tend pas complètement son bras droit à l'impact...

Je présente par avance mes excuses à Michel et Laurent, car il faut être bien culotté pour critiquer le swing de ces immenses champion, surtout quand on voit les notres (ou le mien en particulier). on aimerait jouer 10% aussi bien que ces types... mais bon... c'est le charme du forum...
M.A. Fan
M.A. Fan

Nombre de messages : 2298
Age : 56
Ville : Paris
Index : 6 à 15
Date d'inscription : 19/11/2005

http://www.golfrevelation.com

Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Re: Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par Invité Lun 6 Nov 2006 - 18:43

Adam Scott a gagné, toujours sur le fairway, toujours green en régulation.
Vous mélangez son jeu avec le putting de Jim Furik et vous avez l'adversaire qui peut détroner le Tigre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZecViQxUwss&NR

rea

Invité
Invité


Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Re: Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par Fandegolf Lun 6 Nov 2006 - 21:11

Et un swing de rêve ... le plus beau (le swing je veux dire...) ?

resp resp resp
Fandegolf
Fandegolf

Nombre de messages : 177
Age : 46
Ville : Strasbourg
Index : 12.3
Date d'inscription : 12/01/2006

Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Tour Championship à East Lake Empty Re: Tour Championship à East Lake

Message par Contenu sponsorisé


Contenu sponsorisé


Revenir en haut Aller en bas

Revenir en haut

- Sujets similaires

 
Permission de ce forum:
Vous ne pouvez pas répondre aux sujets dans ce forum